The Whitman comics published between August 1980 and
December 1980 were only available in pre-packs, three comics in a package sold
through department stores and non-traditional locations. Many collectors and dealers consider the
comics published during this period rare.
As an example, the following can be found on Doug Sulipa’s Comic World
Website[1]
November / 2005 Rarest Whitmans;
Revised RARITY CHART;
Based
on CURRENT Market Supply, Demand & Prices;>> Based on CGC Census,
Highest Graded copies observed, the collection of Top Whitman Collectors,
previous items in stock, current items in stock, eBay observations & recent
histories; >> [ Higher prices have brought some RARE issues into the
Marketplace; Some of the secondary ignored issues have now become the toughest
issues on the CURRENT Marketplace & Least contained within major
collections]; **** LOW Values in OVERSTREET prevent the TRUE value &
Scarcity from being known, as most collectors & dealers do not consider slabbing
comics that guide under $50.00; Those that list HIGHER in OVERSTREET are now
becoming easier to locate. When ALL the 8-12/1980 Whitman's guide at a $60.00
MINIMUM (as they should) the REAL RARITY will become more apparent and STABLE.
HIGH PRICES make Pooh #22, Scrooge 179, Lulu 260, Donald 222 WDCS 480 &
others, show up more &look MORE common than they actually are. If these books still listed at
$25 each, they would be at the top of the Rarity chart. Thus i moved them
back up the list a bit.
(A)
>> 19 x RAREST; (Lowest CGC
Quantity;Rare in High Grade Condition; Most difficult to find issues; Estimated
that 25-50 copies each exist in the current marketplace); In approximate order
of Rarity (beginning with the current VERY RAREST); (1) Woody Woodpecker #191; (2) Bugs Bunny #221; (3) Popeye
#158; (4) Beep Beep Roadrunner #92; (5) Looney Tunes #35; (6) Tom & Jerry
#332; (7) Super Goof #61; (8) Daffy Duck #130; (9) Little Lulu #260 (10) Super
Goof #62; (11) Huey Dewey Louie #66; (12) Yosemite Sam #68; (13) Black Hole
(Beyond the...) #4; (14) Winnie the Pooh #20; (15) Tweety & Slyvester #105;
(16) Mickey Mouse #208; (17) Beep Beep Roadrunner #93; (18) Winnie the Pooh
#22; (19) Battle of the Planets #7,
(B)
>> 22 x
RARE ; (Low CGC Quantity; Estimated that 51-75
copies each exist in the current marketplace); Beep Beep Roadrunner #91; Chip N
Dale #69; Daffy Duck #131; Daisy & Donald #47; Donald Duck #222; Huey Dewey
Louie #65; Little Lulu #261; Looney Tunes #34; Mickey Mouse #209; Pink Panther
#76; Popeye #159; Super Goof #60; Tom & Jerry #330, 331; Tweety &
Sylvester #106, 107; Uncle Scrooge #179,180; Walt Disney's Comics & Stories
#480; Winnie the Pooh #21; Yosemite Sam #69; Woody Woodpecker #190;
(C)
>>15 x SCARCE;
(Scarce issues; Estimated that 76-100 copies each exist in the current
marketplace); Battle of the Planets #9, Beep Beep Roadrunner #93; Bugs Bunny
#222;Chip N Dale #67,68; Daisy & Donald #46;Donald Duck #224; Looney Tunes
#33; Mickey Mouse #207; Pink Panther #75,77; Porky Pig #97,98; Uncle Scrooge #181;
Walt Disney's Comics & Stories #482, Yosemite Sam #70;
The Appendix lists all of the
issues published between 8/80 and 12/80 with additional columns for Sulipa’s
rarity ranking, CGC census data, and Overstreet Price Guide (2007) NM
prices. Each of these pieces of data
provides an indication of how rare these comics are, or at least are thought to
be rare. There have been blog reports
that have repudiated some of the rarity claims, citing strong distribution in
Australia and Canada.
Sulipa’s Top Ten
Doug Sulipa’s ten rarest Whitman comics are found in Table
1, listed from most rare to tenth-most rare. As Doug states above, these rankings are
“based on CGC Census, Highest Graded copies observed, the collection of Top
Whitman Collectors, previous items in stock, current items in stock, eBay
observations & recent histories.”
Given Doug’s long history as a comic dealer and his amazing stock of
Dell, Gold Key and Whitman comics, I would tend to hold Sulipa’s Top Ten in the
highest regard.
Table 1. Doug Sulipa’s Ten Rarest Whitman Comics
Rank
|
Title
|
#
|
Date Code
|
Date
|
1
|
Woody Woodpecker
|
191
|
011
|
11/80
|
2
|
Bugs Bunny
|
221
|
009
|
09/80
|
3
|
Popeye
|
158
|
009
|
09/80
|
4
|
Beep Beep, The Road
Runner
|
92
|
009
|
09/80
|
5
|
Looney Tunes
|
35
|
012
|
12/80
|
6
|
Tom and Jerry
|
332
|
012
|
12/80
|
7
|
Super Goof
|
61
|
009
|
09/80
|
8
|
Daffy Duck
|
130
|
010
|
10/80
|
9
|
Marge's Little Lulu
|
260
|
009
|
09/80
|
10
|
Super Goof
|
62
|
011
|
11/80
|
CGC’s Top Ten
Using CGC census data is another way to look at the rarity
of Whitman issues. Over the past five
years, there has been a great deal of interest in Whitman issues published
between 8/80 and 12/80, with some impressive prices seen for many eBay
auctions. This level of interest
typically fuels a surge in CGC comic submissions. As such, it is expected that the CGC Census
data would be a good indicator of scarcity (Table 2).
The CGC census reports for the
Whitman comics published between 8/80 and 12/80 found that Black Hole #4 and
Beagle Boys Versus Uncle Scrooge #11 did not have any submissions, placing them
tied as the two rarest according to CGC. There was one submission for Buck
Rogers #8, ranking it third, and there were several submissions of 2 and 3
issues, creating ties for 4th and 8th.
OPG’s Top Ten
Another way to look at rarity is the Overstreet Price Guide
(OPG) Near-Mint (NM) values. Although
not a clear indication of scarcity, there is typically a correlation between
the rarity of a comic and its value.
This is skewed by the popularity of the title. Uncle Scrooge and Little Lulu are favorites
to many and will garner higher values, but they might not be as rare as some of
the others. Regardless, it is another
indicator and the top ten are listed in Table 3.
Table 2. CGC’s Ten Rarest Whitman Comics
Rank
|
Title
|
#
|
Date
|
CGC
|
1
|
Beagle Boys Vs.
Uncle Scrooge
|
11
|
11/80
|
0
|
1
|
Black Hole
|
4
|
09/80
|
0
|
3
|
Buck Rogers
|
8
|
10/80
|
1
|
4
|
Beep Beep, The Road
Runner
|
93
|
10/80
|
2
|
4
|
Beep Beep, The Road
Runner
|
91
|
08/80
|
2
|
4
|
Mickey Mouse
|
209
|
12/80
|
2
|
4
|
Winnie the Pooh
|
20
|
08/80
|
2
|
8
|
Beep Beep, The Road
Runner
|
92
|
09/80
|
3
|
8
|
Bugs Bunny
|
222
|
11/80
|
3
|
8
|
Chip 'N' Dale
|
67
|
08/80
|
3
|
8
|
Daisy & Donald
|
45
|
08/80
|
3
|
8
|
Huey, Dewey, and
Louie
|
65
|
09/80
|
3
|
8
|
Super Goof
|
62
|
11/80
|
3
|
8
|
Tom and Jerry
|
330
|
08/80
|
3
|
8
|
Tweety and Sylvester
|
106
|
10/80
|
3
|
8
|
Uncle Scrooge
|
180
|
11/80
|
3
|
8
|
Walt Disney's Comics
& Stories
|
482
|
11/80
|
3
|
8
|
Walt Disney's Comics
& Stories
|
479
|
08/80
|
3
|
8
|
Woody Woodpecker
|
191
|
11/80
|
3
|
Table 3. OPG’s Ten Rarest Whitman Comics
Rank
|
Title
|
#
|
Date
|
NM OPG
|
1
|
Uncle Scrooge
|
179
|
09/80
|
$ 675.00
|
2
|
Donald Duck
|
222
|
10/80
|
$ 285.00
|
3
|
Marge's Little Lulu
|
260
|
09/80
|
$ 250.00
|
4
|
Walt Disney's Comics
& Stories
|
480
|
09/80
|
$ 150.00
|
5
|
Mickey Mouse
|
208
|
10/80
|
$ 110.00
|
6
|
Daisy & Donald
|
47
|
12/80
|
$
75.00
|
7
|
Donald Duck
|
224
|
12/80
|
$
65.00
|
7
|
Donald Duck
|
221
|
08/80
|
$
65.00
|
7
|
Donald Duck
|
223
|
11/80
|
$
65.00
|
10
|
Uncle Scrooge
|
180
|
11/80
|
$
60.00
|
10
|
Uncle Scrooge
|
181
|
12/80
|
$
60.00
|
DellComicFan’s Top Five
In the absence of actual publication data for each issue,
the scarcity of the Whitman comics during this period is admittedly
subjective. With this in mind, I proffer
my five most rare Whitman comics (Table 4). This ranking is based upon how difficult it
was for me to locate these issues and how often I find them offered for sale
through web sites, mail-order catalogs, and eBay.
Based on my experience, the rarest
Whitman comic is clearly Black Hole #4.
The first three issues, which are all based upon the movie, are easily
found, but I have only seen the fourth issue offered on two occasions.
Table 4. DellComicFan's Five Rarest Whitman Comics
Rank
|
Title
|
#
|
Date
|
1
|
Black Hole
|
4
|
09/80
|
2
|
Buck Rogers
|
9
|
12/80
|
3
|
Beagle Boys Vs.
Uncle Scrooge
|
11
|
11/80
|
4
|
Super Goof
|
62
|
11/80
|
5
|
Winnie the Pooh
|
22
|
12/80
|
50-Cent Price Variants
Note that there are also some 50-cent price variant issues
that were published during this period.
There are 50-cent issues of Bugs Bunny 222 and Flash Gordon 30
confirmed. CGC has second listing for
Donald Duck 223, Donald Duck 224, Mickey Mouse 208, and Woody Woodpecker
190. It is possible that these second
listings by CGC are also 50-cent issues, but this remains to be verified. If these are 50-cent variants, it would make
these issues the rare of the rare, as there were not nearly as many 50-cent
issues published during the 40-cent to 50-cent price transition period. If not, it is not clear why there are two
separate entries for these four issues.
What is Truly Scarce?
Although there is a scarcity of Whitman comics published
between August and December 1980, there has not been a survey of all Whitman
comics that have been published. To date,
I am not aware of a list of all the Whitman comics that have been
published. It is possible that some of
the earlier Whitman comics that were published as counterparts to the Gold Key
comics might be as scarce as the pre-pack comics. It remains an open question whether there are
other Whitman comics that might be considered scarce as well.
[1]
http://www.dougcomicworld.com/INVENTORY-WhitmanComicsSite.html
Concerning the rarity of Uncle Scrooge #179 and some of the other Whitman issues here listed:
ReplyDeleteUS # 179 was regularly distributed in Northern Europe. Duck comics are a big deal here in Finland and even back in 1980 American US and WDC&S were regularly sold at kiosks and bookstores (it was considered a fun way for kids to learn English, I guess).
My near-mint copy was bought at the local kiosk and a quick call-around to friends who collected issues back then reveals that 179 is not any rarer than other issues from the early 80ties. I wonder if that is true for Sweden and Norway too? I believe Whitman comics were sold in those countries as well
This may call the “only 200 copies left” that I’ve seen reported into question. Look to Northern Europe for missing issues on the list above. I bought my copies of the 1980 DDs and WDC&S new at kiosks too.
While US179 never made it to the Swedish kiosks (as far as I saw) it is true that WDC480 was available in my local kiosk in 1980. As it had a sticker with the price in Swedish Kronor on it I wouldn't call it Near Mint though.
ReplyDeleteOnly the first two issues of the Black Hole comic adapted the movie. The third issue was actually the first of two retitled 'Beyond...', and sold in the bagged set with the two-part movie adaptation (and thus fairly easy to find).
ReplyDeleteTrue, it is the 4th issue that is very hard to locate. I have only seen it offered a few times on eBay, and always at a high price.
ReplyDeleteI believe in 83/84 there were Whitman 75 cent price variants. Those are rarer than the 40 center from aug. to dec.1980. I have a Alice in wonderland in 9.2, and I’ve seen 2 in the last 11 years of searching. The 2 that I saw were 3.0 and 5.0. I have never seen any others. It is most likely that less than 10 in exist, or less. I only know of 3. that exist. Extremely Rare (R9.9). Much rarer than Uncle Scrooge 179
ReplyDeleteThe CGC list is off as the Beagle Boys 11 was also released as a Gold Key. The two 50 cent versions of Flash Gordon and Bugs 222 are second printings. The ads inside reflect that. The only ones that had a price change done mid-print were issues from 1/81. Those issues include Uncle Scrooge 182, Donald Duck 225, Huey Dewey and Louie 67, Little Lulu 262, Super Goof 63, Bugs Bunny 223, Walt Disney Comics and Stories and Pink Panther 78. As for the 75 cent variants. All Whitman issues printed in 1984 had Canadian Price Variants. The 1984 issues are really rare. Some of the rarest CPVs out there.
ReplyDeleteI have a Donald duck 222 50 cent Whitman cover.
DeleteAs seems to be the case in Northern Europe (based on comments above) at least some of those issues were distributed normally in Australia (i.e. not in a 3 pack). Uncle Scrooge 179 and WDC&S 480 both pop up for sale relatively often.
ReplyDeleteI have some Whitman comics from 1980 that were sold in Narvesen kiosks in Norway and among those are WDC480, MM208 and DD222. My US179 copy is from Australia.
ReplyDeleteI just found a 1980 #4 beyound the black hole comic at value village for $1.29 great shape. Sweeeeeeet!!!
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